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Hey!

As others have mentioned I think perhaps you're being a bit too self critical! These aren't nearly as bad as you may think!

Moreover, I think perhaps you're drawing on too large of a canvas for each pose, try drawing on a smaller scale to create shorter strokes. Sometimes it's hard to continue to be motivated when you try your hardest and do all the things everyone else says to do and yet you still feel as though it's doing nothing for you and your learning process! I love 30 second figure drawings (if you can believe it) but I'm terrible at 1 minute figure drawings! The issue here isn't a lack of skill, but a lack of time management and order of operations! You have to get better at adjusting your priority of drawing to the time you have and to abandon traditional drawing habits that don't serve you in this exercise.

Figure drawing requires a lot of passive thinking but an active effort to swat away at habit. I can only use myself as an example but hopefully it'll help you think of yourself and the way you think! I used to be worse at figure drawing, and as I mentioned especially 1 minute and higher. It's because I think too much because I have so much time...But with 30 seconds I'm forced to not think too hard. I'd say if you're struggling with proportions (though judging by your drawings I don't think your proportions are that bad at all!) Really hone in on practicing proportion, don't think of volume or shapes, just do the stick figures to get that down and don't do it in figure drawings. Really study it to get a better understanding. And once you have that in your memory bank DONT THINK ABOUT IT AT ALL while you're doing your figure drawings. Just look and draw. Which sounds easier than it is. But when you don't think of the images as HUMAN SHAPES. Look at each individual part of the figure as isolated shapes and hopefully your muscle memory/unconscious brain fills in the gaps of proportion with your prior study. A lot of this is built up habit.

Think about why you're doing figure drawings and what purpose they serve you! For me I never do figure drawings to 'loosen up' my drawings, or to fix a stiffness in my art. I use it to practice my anatomical skills and be able to better understand how muscles and limbs connect.

Consider: why am I doing figure drawings? Is this the best way for me to practice? and Can I be doing this in a way that doesn't hurt my brain?

hope this was helpful

I'm glad it was helpful!

Yeah man I hear u, most of my hands, feet, and tbh - heads, are all real loose and barely there. But theyre not the main stars of the show anyway so its okay Hhahahaaha - to be honest the arms are pretty important to the flow, so even if ure missing the legs, the hands, the feet, the most things, if u have the clav, the arms, and the hips ure like mostly there.

Also I've always struggled with 3d form so I try to do exercises to help me with it LOL. I highly recommend and suggest filling a whole page with simple shapes. I usually start on a perspective line and then when I get bored of that I go to making unique boxes and shapes and rotating them, connecting them in different ways etc. !

Here's what one of those practice pages usually looks like (ignore the cloth exercises lol) But this has really helped me be able to create 3d forms in my gestures quickly! Especially when u start stacking and laying down objects on top of each other!

Heya!

I'm a (layed off) animator too! I'm in a similar position where I'm trying to up my anatomy game so hopefully my insights will be helpful to you!

I've done some notes and draw overs on your drawings! But TLDR ! It's more important to understand form in 3d space and perspective than it is to know anatomy! Not that knowing anatomy isn't important...but it's a lot easier to start learning and disecting anatomy in figure drawings when you don't have to think too hard on form!

Here's the link to the imgur (since LoA isn't posting my images for some reason...)

Hopefully this was helpful and fair ^_^ lmk if you need some clarification or if I'm explained something kind of weird! Also as mentioned in one of my notes, these are thigns that work for me personally but the general advice of....knowing form lol is universal! So if you take anything awy from my notes its just that.

Looking good! I would suggest as well finding a way that works for you as user Idon'tknow mentioned, adding some more guiding lines be that through the classic single curved lines.

Or even just segementing the body into two halves! Either I suggest looking at some other approaches to the way people do figure drawing to find a style or way to segment the body for better structure and dynamic poses that works easiest for you!

I think I have a similar style to you in terms of gesture drawing approaches actually! If you want I can also send some of my own examples if it helps at all!

here's my little drawover to explain what i mean!

By overlap I mean the body, limbs, and pose having a greater sense of depth and perspective by adding appropriate overlap between the forms in a 3 dimensional space!

Hopefully this explains it a little better! Sorry for the langauge barrier ! [img]https://imgur.com/a/7B3NYmn[/img]

Your posing and general vibe on these are really good! They're very clear and readable.

You've got most of the proportions and posing down pretty well but would greatly benefit from a greater sense of overlap. However I would suggest working on foreshortening/overlapping muscle and fat structure!

Either way good work!

Heyo! The files are private/require request to see !

Hi!

I also just joined : ) I would love to start something in here if there's other people interested in having a schedule or homework stuff

Heya!

I'd also like to add that figure drawings don't have to be (and shouldn't be) your primary learning source for drawing the human figure! From all my friends who do art, we all sort of approach figure drawing different and some don't even like it at all!

I personally use figure drawing as a way to solidify the things I've learned; I study muscles, the skeleton, etc. and then I do figure drawings and see how quickly I can identify those landmarks and simplify what I've learned! So instead of seeing it as 'moving forward' with what you've learned from figure drawing, it can also be useful to use it as a reminder tool versus the other way around!

I am an animator and I do my fair share of illustrations, and I've recently been trying to up my game in that regard but I've felt my anatomy lacking though I like my posing well enough! So my primary use of figure drawing is as mentioned above!

^_^ ! Learning art is super non-linear and I feel like you'll always find yourself coming back to the basics throughout your journey