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Here's a thing I found interesting and that I'd like your thoughts on. I'm (still) trying to get my gestures more fliud and dynamic, and I realised I'm working with my wrist not my shoulder. So I stood up to draw instead of sitting down. It seems to me to have had quite an impact.

These two images are showing the same poses drawn sitting (top row), and standing (bottom row). The bottom ones look much more flowing to me. Do you agree?

Sitting - Standing (wrist - shoulder) by Ian P

And these are longer 15 minute drawings, the first two sitting down and the second two standing up. Again, the first ones ones seem stiffer than the pair I did standing up and using my shoulder.

Sitting 15 mins by Ian P

Standing 15 mins by Ian P

I've been doing lots of Proko Robobean practice over the last week or so, and thinking much more about perspective and proportion. Hopefully some of that is coming through too!

Anyway - I feel like standing up has given me a bit of a leap forward. Be interested to hear what you all think!

Ian.

Thanks.

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Thanks,
Ian.

Here's todays 1-hour class. I've tried harder to catch the LoA and to avoid straight lines, and spent more time thinking about proportion in the 25min sketch.

https://i.imgur.com/VP5T8yb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bkMfhDM.jpg

My initial thoughts are the sticks seem a bit more fluid, but I'm not so sure about the others. If art is an expression of the inner self, then it would seem my inner self may be a plank of wood :-)

One thought that occurred about the 1st 5min pic: in the ref she was lying down on a sofa, head further away and bottom nearer to the viewer. I get no sense of that perspective in my sketch. I'm guessing I failed to foreshorten her body enough?

Thanks in advance for any comments - they are all gratefully received. And thanks for the site too Kim. As a working man with a family the combination of this site + proko is about as close I'm ever likely to get to an art college.

Ian.

Thanks. The pen is a practical choice driven by the paper - It's cheap newsprint, so pencil doesn't show well and fine-liners soak through to the other side.

Re the sticks: I thought I was putting in the LoA - I might have to re-examine my understanding there then :-)

So, taking the advice I was given I had a re-think and set myself some more realistic targets for the various practice timings:

30 seconds: Stick-people showing LoA, head, shoulder angle, hip angle, optional arms and legs
1 minute: as 30s + rib and pelvis blobs and joint marks
5 minute: 1m + rib and pelvis 3d boxes, pinch and stretch on sides, face direction, filled in limbs. (Trying to get some indication of twist, balance and weight)
10 min: Proportions and shading
25 min: More detail, better proportions, better rendering of detail, basic face

I'm a bit happer with these as aresult of my changed expectation. The quicker ones (especially the 5-minuters) look a bit sketchy, but I don't (yet) have time to think about proportion in those shorter timescales.

Here are the pics:

https://i.imgur.com/pMGNAHS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/I6LQMd5.jpg

Ian.

Good points. I'll have another go this evening and try to do less but better. Wish me luck ;-)

Hmm - not sure I'm getting this. I feel like I'm just drawing not very good stick people. I've done 20 minutes of 30s , so 40 stick-people in total, but these are enough to give an idea. I'll stick (!) with them until I get to 100, then try switching to 2 minutes to see if I panic less when I have a bit more time.

https://i.imgur.com/5EmyJKc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XCJsphu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eBJ7X8t.jpg