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November 5, 2024 3:19pm #32718
Hey everyone! Did my first hour long session after the tutorial, I've been drawing a while but always end up using posing apps due to my lack of anatomy practice. My school didn't have formal art classes so I've been a bit behind in that regard. These are what I did today, and I struggled especially with the first image which was my last pose. I don't know what's really not clicking for me, so I'd appreciate any advice! Thank you!
November 5, 2024 5:22pm #32719Hey, good job on these! I think you have a pretty solid understanding of the actual poses, so I think you'd benefit from doing more muscle and anatomy studies instead; really train those 3D shapes. There's a lot of overlap, but they aren't quite the same skillset.
Anatomy for Sculptors is a good, thorough resource for that, and I'd also suggest Taco1704 and Michael Hampton. Proko can be hit-or-miss but is helpful for a lot of people!
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November 5, 2024 6:08pm #32720Adding to what the previous comment mentioned, personally, what worked for me was dividing the topics. Instead of a full hour, maybe try half an hour, and then analyze what you’ve done (the 30-minute module works well for me). Give yourself 10 minutes to watch a video on poses, then immediately try to apply what you've learned. The improvement won’t be instant, but you’ll start internalizing important rules as you practice, making each new hour of practice more enriching. I hope my point is clear, as English is not my primary language. Good luck with your practice!
3November 6, 2024 1:27pm #32723I think your practice turned out amazing! I would suggest one quick tip whoch I noticed in the second image, the aft arm in the character at the very top right felt a bit off and I think some more foreshortening work can help with that. I can't see the image you used for it but it almost looks like the tricep on the arm being pulled back can overlap on the back just a hair more. Otherwise quite beautiful work! :)
2 1November 7, 2024 2:22pm #32731better yet, do 15 seconds sketches. the point of gesture drawing is that you shouldn't care of what comes out. https://imgur.com/a/i3kt1Qs you must learn how many bodyparts can be drawn in less lines as possible with no actual understanding of 3d shapes and so on. squinting your eyes can help too since you must not understand all those details. that is the first step
1November 7, 2024 2:32pm #32732Idon'tknow, genuine question here - is there a reason you keep replying to people in that way? How is saying "you must not understand all those details" helpful? You don't actually know for sure what OP knows based on just these sketches.
Remember that learning what critique to accept and what to reject is also a skill. You are allowed to care what comes out, especially since analyzing your own work and mistakes (kindly) is part of the process of improving.
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November 7, 2024 4:46pm #32733I do understand what you mean, but I cannot tell them what didn't work for me. I committed many mistakes that at the end of the day didn't help me improve and got me frustrated over it until I found the solution elsewhere. Let me tell you I am doing all of this not for ill intent but because I do not want others to live the same stuff I went through, I genuinelly want to help others learn the best way I can.😖😭
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November 7, 2024 8:01pm #32734I understand that this well intended, but you're not really helping or warning people by putting them down. Telling people "you must not understand this" "if you can't even do that" "it's too late if you're that" is discouraging. It's rude. People saying things like that to me made me want to quit.
Your mindset has been poisoned because the way you're learning isn't effective for you; don't poison other people too. You have actual commentary, even; you could just say "try 15 second practices and work on your shapes", without the assumptions or defeatism. I'd argue that that would be more helpful.
If how you're learning doesn't work, find a new method or a better teacher, and unlearn that set of "lessons" you've put in your bio. Your experiences are not universal.
(Apologies to OP here; I'm going to go ahead and stop replying on a critique thread).
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November 8, 2024 11:34am #32737Thank you very much for the suggestion! This was very helpful as in my inexperience I had assumed doing pose work would help with my understanding of anatomy whoops! I'll be looking into those resources!
November 14, 2024 8:35am #32759Your shape language could use some work, but I like the poses! Keep practicing!!
1November 17, 2024 1:03am #32766To add on to the shape language idea ^
These are great studies to understand the proportions and general directionality of a body. The shapes (circles/ovals) used to quickly describe sections of the body like the head, torso, and hips might not be communicative enough to inform you or the viewer. The practice of preemptively plotting these significant sections of a skeleton is great though! Maybe try thinking about the actual shapes of the bones of these areas. The ribcage has a specific shape that isn't a tall oval, the hips are boxy, the head isnt quite circular.
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