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October 28, 2024 9:24pm #32689
Hello.
I've started figure drawing 1 week ago and I wonder if I have to switch up with the other things such as expresisons, hands & feet, animals, simple forms and backgrounds. Except I can't find any tips on those, just the human figure from the starting tutorial.
I'm new to drawing, but I want to learn the basic skills in order to better deal with other fields.
How can I proceed?
October 29, 2024 7:06am #32691Just to be honest, if you already know how to draw a stable line that is where all progress is going to stop.
I am not making any of this up, this is the end line. I have been drawing random people badly (which is what gesture drawing is all about) for the last few months and I still don't know what I am even doing. All tutorials and outside media are made by people who already know anatomy, yet anatomy cannot be learned unless you know gesture drawing, can you see the logic here?
the alternative is to draw each shape of the body the same way an architect would, you'll need to learn 3d shapes subdivided regularly that bend in different directions, but that requires so many construction lines you'll not be able to see the drawing.
My biggest advice is: draw like you have nothing to learn, do stuff at random, chase all the wild geese you want and be shure to get distracted enough to not let your frustration ruin the process. In my case I have been turning pokemon designs into simple shapes. If you want I can teach you those shapes
- Idon'tknow edited this post on October 29, 2024 11:14am.
October 29, 2024 9:13am #32692Just to be honest, if you already know how to draw a stable line that is where all progress is going to stop.
These are all my figure drawing I made in a week. I can't tell if my line is stable enough or not.
draw each shape of the body the same way an architect would, you'll need to learn 3d shapes
So I should takle the basic figure's classes in the site for that or I have to study resources like Drawabox or the likes?
chase all the wild geese you want
Actually, one of the reasone why I started to take on drawing was not only to shape my thoughts better, but also being part of what my favourite artists are.
I hope this influence map of mine does not look too much.There's a lot to study, but studying is part of my life and I'm not gonna shy away from ordeals.
October 29, 2024 11:03am #32693Ok, there is still something you can learn at the moment. let's start from the line. the way you draw makes me think you move the hand really slowly. Well when I am talking about stable lines I mean make each line with a simple swoop, do not put time or effort into it. flick your entire Forearm to make it as much natural as possible. In this case every single tutorial can help you with that. Try the drawabox site where you can find descriptions and so on or you can look at the BaM Animation channel where they can give you some exercises on how to train your arm in doing said lines. usually this video was the one that taught me to fill a page with lines.
&t=380s">Or this one where it gives you more exercises but doesn't put as much effort in explaining them.That is the first thing I ask you to learn, then You can think about gesture, force, structure and all that crap.
Looking at your influence map I can maybe help you with simple or iconic character design like in the case of Super Mario or Pizza Tower, the Kentaro Miura style might be a little too much for the both of us.
- Idon'tknow edited this post on October 29, 2024 3:04pm.
- Idon'tknow edited this post on October 29, 2024 3:07pm.
Well, I like fantasy artstyle with warm colours like Asada, Inomata and HACCHAN (also good at doing iconic and simple designs), as well the gritty and realistic styles of Kakizaki and Miura, especially the latter on how he used to compose the scenes.
In regard of the other influences, I've grown with video games and I like to play them, that's why I added them, moreso if there are plenty of official and fanartists nailing the characters' models without straying too much.
I know there's plenty to study, but I'm used to do so as I wrote before.
Speaking of study, I tried Drawabox but it felt too slow for my taste, so I wonder if that channel you linked me could be a good middle ground for training my lines more efficently.
- Wanter Getter edited this post on October 29, 2024 5:38pm. Reason: Correct a typo and add more info
Yeah, as I said. when it comes to the lines it is all straighforward. Every source can do its job. Regarding all those realistic and really complicated designs... that requires beyond expert level of artistic talent to understand. I do not want to discourage you but many artists, especially in the east had a particular upbringing from a very VERY early age. It is all OK if by inspiration you man using some of their ideas, but in case of artistry or comlpexity it's not like asking to draw in the Fairly Odd parents style. Trying to emulate him would bring every novice at a disadvantage.
I tell you all of this because I was really ambitious in terms of inspiration. I thought I could rival many Disney animators if I just understood the behind the scenes and so on. But in reality those people never even started asking for help in some art forum, 'cos they always had the right masters teaching them the job. If they couldn't make it at that level on their own what makes you think I should? So at the end of the day I've learned to just start from the bottom. It's quite a good thing you like things that have a simpler art style, that doesn't mean their art sucks, but their decisions are based in simplicity and function.
- Idon'tknow edited this post on October 29, 2024 7:52pm.
I just like to learn something new and improve myself whenever I can, and learning from my favourites could be a boost if I don't overdone it.
I'm in my 30s, so I'm probably out of the field for the eastern artists, but I don't plan to get the bread out of drawings anyway.
Just because I aced History of Arts during University, I know that the practice is quite demanding compared to theory, but I do not mind improving myself in my spare time and for my self improvement.
as I said before, don't even do it to improve. just do it to spend time some way